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Postby dandanUK » 02 Mar 2011 - 14:11

hiya new poster here. dont many interrail trips before but never into Eastern Europe.

i am going to meet my family out on holiday in turkey, but i hate sitting by a pool, so ive decided to go completely overland from Birmingham to Fethiye on the Med coast in southern Turkey.

anyway, to my question.

at a website there is a section for travelling from budapest to bucharest it suggests that it is £91 when bought in the UK, but considerably cheaper when bought at the station(60 euros).
the same is true for travelling from bucharest to istanbul (£76 in the UK and 45 euros when bought at the station)

prices without a rail pass, as i dont really need one

what would you advise i do, would it be worthwhile waiting till i get there to buy the tickets for the sleepers or shall i get them in the UK? as im not too sure what Hungarian and Romanian train stations are like.

ta for your help,
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Postby Robert_Antonio » 02 Mar 2011 - 18:12

From Budapest to Bukarest buy a cheap e-ticket at mav-start.hu/english/index.php , but at least one month in advance. The Hungarian Railways e-shop is still in development, so it's quite buggy and not all texts are translated to English. The price is €29 for seat and €39 for 6-berth couchette.

Bukarest-Istanbul ticket costs €40 plus €9.40 for 6-berth couchette supplement, if bought at Bukarest train station.
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Postby flow » 02 Mar 2011 - 18:28

You said you want to go completely overland all the way from Birmingham...have you already thought about how you want to travel in Western Europe? A 5in10 InterRail pass could be worth its money for the whole trip...
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Postby dandanUK » 02 Mar 2011 - 18:49

well i did look into that. its £145 quid for the interrail for 5 in 10

the sleeper fom paris to munich is about £30 i think. then "8 from munich to budapest, but i want a stop in vienna, then take a trip to bratislava too.

what will the seat reservation prices be for these trips plus the budapest-bucharest and bucharest-istanbul trains?
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Postby flow » 02 Mar 2011 - 19:08

Paris - München night train prices start at ~40€ for a regular 2nd class seat...for a bed in a sleeper prices start at ~90€. When travelling with an InterRail pass it is 9€for a 2nd class seat and 45€ in a 3-bed sleeper.

dandanUK wrote:"8 from munich to budapest
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Additional costs esitmate when travelling with InterRail:

- 6€ for TGV Calais/Lille - Paris (It may be possible to avoid the TGV and go with free trains instead...I have to look at the ferry timings still)
- 9€ for a 2nd class seat in the CNL night train Paris - München (25€ in a 6-bed couchette, 35€ in a 4-bed couchette, 45€ in a 3-bed sleeper)
- München - Wien - Bratislava - Budapest: Free travel, no reservation needed
- I would recommend to go Budapest - Sofiya - Istanbul instead of going via Bukarest.
Budapest - Sofiya: 6bed couchette: 13,40€, 3bed sleeper 22€
Sofiya - Istanbul: same prices as above

So you will total at ~200 - 250€ depending on the comfort you choose.


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Postby dandanUK » 02 Mar 2011 - 19:17

sorry pressed the shift too early, I meant £28 :oops:

can budapest - sofia - istanbul all bee booked at the respective train stations?
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Postby flow » 02 Mar 2011 - 19:41

Ah, ok. :)

Yeah, you can book all those trains at the originating stations. But as well at many other stations within Europe...for instance in Wien.


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Postby dandanUK » 02 Mar 2011 - 19:45

Thanks for all your help.
much appreciated.
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Postby Robert_Antonio » 02 Mar 2011 - 20:00

But consider that the tickets would be more expensive if booked abroad (for example Bukarest-Istanbul €62.60)
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Postby flow » 02 Mar 2011 - 20:09

The prices for InterRail are set - the 62,60 are for a regular ticket I suppose.. ;)

Where do you want to make stopovers along the route?

Budapest - Sofiya - Istanbul will take two travel days. You know that there is no train service to Fethiye? The closest you can probably get is Burdur which is ~200km away. I know only about an overnight train from Istanbul to Burdur so you would need a total of three travel days for Budapest - Burdur.
Plus two travel days for Calais - Paris - München - Wien (- Bratislava/Budapest). Depending on where you want to stay you might need to go with regular tickets for Wien - Bratislava and/or Budapest. Or you get regular tickets for Istanbul - Burdur but I dont know these prices. Or take a bus on that route..?
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Postby dandanUK » 02 Mar 2011 - 20:13

yeah, i was wondering why this happens.

so the cheapest way would be.
1. eurostar to paris £38
2. global 5 day pass £145
3. paris to munich sleeper £9
4. munich - vienna - bratislava - budapest FREE
5. budapest - sofia 13euros
6. sofia - istanbul 13 euros

TOTAL
approx £210

will reserving the sleeper trains be the same price if booked in Vienna, rather than at the station in budapest and sofia?
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Postby dandanUK » 02 Mar 2011 - 20:14

yes i am taking a bus from istanbul to fethiye
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Postby flow » 02 Mar 2011 - 20:20

I think that will be rather cheap, yes. When travelling with regular tickets you would have to pay at least 40€ for Paris - München and 29€ for München - Wien (more likely 49€ or more as the tickets for 29€ are very limited). I think the InterRail is worth its money for this trip.

The reservations can be a little cheaper when bought directly in Budapest/Sofiya but I wouldnt think substantially.
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Postby dandanUK » 03 Mar 2011 - 00:25

just another quick question.

could i travel from budapest to sofia via belgrade in the daytime so i dont have to pay for a seat reservation?
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Postby flow » 03 Mar 2011 - 01:17

No.

What would be possible is to go Budapest - Timisoara - Bukarest during the day but you would need a reservation for both these trains (~3€ plus ~5-10€) and connecting time in Timisoara is rather short so I wouldt recommend this option.
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